then you tell us the this that -- about the discussion between harry reid and mitch mcconnell? >> right now there does not seem to be too much happening. we kind of had a topsy-turvy day. lots of sound and fury but not a lot of action. we had democrat to started the day, saying it will be republicans demand to change the way benefits are paid out that that was a non started to democrats. republicans said we put it out last night and an offer, we have not gotten a counteroffer from democrats and we are waiting to see where they are. both sides huddled this afternoon with their respective caucuses. republicans came out and said we are fine, we are taking the demand of the table, and democrats said they should have but that are still trying to balance the entire budget on the backs of the middle-class, and we are not there yet. what i hear from folks who are working -- the negotiations is the across the board defense and entitlement cuts does go into effect january 1 is a big sticking point in the negotiations. there is the tax piece with those trying to avoid taxes going up autom